Messy Color™ Hades

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Hades (511820)<br />An intense black that stays true black even when pulled into stringers and has spectacular reactions with silver.

An intense black that stays true black even when pulled into stringers and has spectacular reactions with silver.


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"Back to Black features silvered Hades shards which are an absolute favourite of mine." Read more at Kitzbitz Art Glass' blog. – Jolene Wolfe

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Hades & Electic Avenue shards with several of Lisa's murrini
Lisa St. Martin
Messy Hades & palladium leaf
Sarah Bedwell
Messy Hades
Gloria Sevey
Messy Hades
Vonna Maslanka
Messy Hades & Peace
Jolene Wolfe
Messy Hades with Reichenbach
Claire Morris

Messy Tester's Feedback

  • Hades has become the “go to” black for many lampworkers.
"Hades is the best black! I love it. It is the only black, that's really black, without the unpleasant side effects such as devitrification or silver shimmer." – Beat Hadorn
“This is the only black I use, it covers ALL the different blacks for me, great for ‘just black’ [i.e. not purple like Effetre etc.], for webbing [i.e. intense black], for great reactions with silver foil, leaf and glasses.” – Elasia
 “I do use Hades as I like how it stays black; I mostly use it as stringer. I tend to use Effetre black for basic stuff and Hades when it really matters.” – Julie Fountain
“Hades is my favorite real black.” – Maija-Leena Autio
“Tuxedo is my staple black, because of the price difference from Hades. I love Hades as well, but tend to save it for more special applications.” – Donna Dorman
“I use Hades all the time and think it is the best black on the market.” – Gail Witt
“I prefer Hades to other blacks.” – Jan Whitesel-Keeton
"It is always on the bench when I am working." – Chris Haussler
“I use this black the most out of any of the blacks on the market. It's more affordable, extremely dense, and doesn't bleed out in my murrini, and it's very neutral in tone. I do like that it can give similar effects as the Italian dense black by ‘webbing’, so for me this glass is ideal and has the best of both worlds.” – Renee Wiggins
"Hades does not give you the purple color on white that other blacks have. Hades and silver foil make other silver glasses do amazing things!" – Tina Lamasney
“Hades is my most-often used black, unless I’m using it as filler or someplace not visible, and then I use the less expensive Vetrofond or Effetre Black.” – Kathy Coon
  • What is the difference between Hades & Tuxedo? Hades is our intense black (will maintain its black color even when pulled into stringer) and Tuxedo is our regular black (less dense).
“Hades is definitely more black than Tuxedo. It’s like a ‘premium’ black.” – Laura Sparling
"To me, Hades is a richer, jet black, while Tuxedo looks the same in a solid bead, but when used as decoration like dots or stringer work, it can look a little less saturated black." – Lori Bergmann
"I consider Tuxedo to be a staple and Hades to be a special glass." – Jolene Wolfe
"For me, Hades is a 'true' black and Tuxedo is a very deep grey. Both Tuxedo & Hades will get a bit squirrelly with enough heat." – Chris Haussler
"Hades is denser than Tuxedo. Hades is a nice true black that doesn’t bleed purple." – Teri Yount
"Hades acts more like intense black and it stays black. Tuxedo is black but can go grey on white etc. Hades, when blown or made into a hollow or pulled into a stringer, stays black, not purple." – Elasia
"If you melt Hades into white the resulting line will appear black. If you do the same test with Tuxedo, the line appears more purple. I would definitely describe Hades as a real, true dense black. It is the only black I will use from now on." – Gail Witt
"Hades webs and Tuxedo does equally as much." – Pat O'Brien
  • How does Hades compare to Effetre intense black? Testers reported that they prefer Hades because of its spectacular reactions with silver and its stiffness.
"Hades is easier to control than Effetre intense black, and will reduce in the presence of silver which Effetre intense black will not do." – Carol Oliver
"Hades is stiffer and easier to control when working as a stringer." – Claire Morris
"Both are ‘proper’ black instead of really dark purple or blue or whatever, I chose between the two based on how reactive they are with other colors. Hades does wonderful things with many of the silver or reactive glasses, and has great movement when you want it to spread or web. Hades does everything that Intense Black does, plus it is more color reactive with silver glass, costs less and is much more consistent from batch to batch." – Kathy Coon
"Hades is a more intense black than the Effetre intense black. Hades = Blackgasm. Effetre intense black = dark black. The Effetre will spread and spread whereas the Hades will stay put and behave itself. Hades has a bright glossier shine to it when compared to Effetre, I really like it! The only problem with Hades is that I couldn't see the details as easily as with Effetre. This was due to not getting the dreaded metallic sheen. I did bump my light up a bit and that took care of the problem." – Leslie Anne Bitgood
"Hades and Effetre intense black are about the same. But Hades works great with silver glass and Effetre intense black doesn’t." – Pat O'Brien
"I have only ever used Effetre intense black as fine stringer for lace/web beads – I find that they both behave very similarly for this purpose. Hades tends to be more affordable and also easier to source in the UK." – Jolene Wolfe
"Hades maintains its crispness better than Intense Black. I work Hades very cool when using it as stringer and it keeps its definition that way." – Laura Sparling
"Hades can take more heat before webbing. That might give it an edge in some situations." – Chris Haussler
“CiM Hades is quite comparable to Effetre Intense Black. It is a true black. Both of these blacks are very reactive to heat. Effetre Intense Black has a tendency to 'web' out, or spread out in little spidery tendrils as the glass is heated. CiM Hades also likes to spread out into a webby pattern as it is heated. The difference is that the CiM Hades does not get as intricate in its webbing and it leaves a smoky haze in its wake.” Read more at Moon Katty Studios' blog. – Katrina Knauss
  • Most testers agreed that Hades is a bit stiffer than the Italian blacks.
"Hades is stiffer, but if it is too hot, it behaves much like intense black." – Beat Hadorn
"I loved the way it webs like intense black does, but the fact that it is stiffer makes all the difference for me. I really like this glass a lot." – Claire Morris
"Hades is more stiff which makes it easier to use for a stringer decoration." – Gail Witt
"If there is a difference, I can’t tell." – Chris Haussler
"Hades was VERY easy to sculpt with; it wasn't as stiff as I thought it was going to be." – Leslie Anne Bitgood
"Hades being stiffer makes it a great color to pull into stringer and to rake with." – Bonnie Polinski
"I find them to be very similar in stiffness." – Jolene Wolfe
"Hades is a stiff glass, it is firmer than Effetre, and takes longer to work, but you get better colors and reactions with it than other glass. I love it reduced especially with other reactive colors on top." – Vonna Maslanka
  • Testers report that Hades does web (but not quite as much as Effetre intense black) and only when super heated. If you are looking for a more crisp effect, then try working in a cooler flame.
"Hades does crawl and I love the effect. It makes great organic beads. The crawling can be controlled by the amount of heating. It will crawl more easily on some colors than others." – Gail Witt
"Hades crawled only when over heated for a long time. I didn't like it, but I could control it by heating it for a less amount of time even when the heat was very hot! In other words it took me a lot of heat for a long time to get it to crawl. If I used a lot of heat for a shorter [reasonable] time it did not crawl." – Leslie Anne Bitgood
"I rely on it for all of the wonderful webby effects that I used to buy Intense Black for." – Kathy Coon
"Hades webs, and the more you heat it the more it will do so." – Laura Sparling
"I found that Hades did seem to crawl more when in the direct heat, and for me this is not a good thing. I like to work close to the flame, so when used to make dots on white, they didn’t stay dots." – Jan Whitesel-Keeton
"Hades webs when heated well. It webs almost as well as intense black, but not quite as dramatically." – Lori Bergmann
"Hades will web, but it doesn't 'spider web' like Effetre intense black does. It is a different effect." – Tim Gottleber
  • Does Hades have any discernible hue? Most testers only saw black, though some reported seeing green, blue, or brown.
"I didn’t notice any base colour – I just saw black, black and more black. Which is nice to see in black glass!" – Claire Morris
"If it is overheated it deepens to a dark brown." – Beat Hadorn
"I know the glass isn’t really black, but I can’t see anything but a dense black, even in stringer." – Gail Witt
"Looks pretty black to me no matter how fine I pull it!" – Laura Sparling
"Hades has subtle brown to grey/green hues but does not show a discernable hue other than black until it is superheated." – Bonnie Polinski
"I saw blue, but only in bright sunlight when pulled into thread stringer." – Leslie Anne Bitgood
"It can have a slight grayish green tint around the edges when melted in as decoration and heated so the edges slightly bleed." – Lori Bergmann
"Hades is a very dense black and I did not notice a purple or green hue to it." – Jan Whitesel-Keeton
  • Some testers reported that Hades will “ghost” or create a thin parallel line next to itself.
"Hades ghost but only when *really* heated." – Claire Morris
"Hades creates a slight halo when overheated- it has a tendency to ghost more on colors where it doesn’t crawl." – Gail Witt
"I noticed ghosting after super-heating the glass." – Vonna Maslanka
"Hades will ghost, but only when boiled." – Leslie Anne Bitgood
"It ghosts with some glasses and not others. Over heating will intensify this effect sometimes. I don't like it when I am trying for crisp lines...it's fun if I am playing organicly. You can control it by encasing it in clear." – Tim Gottleber
  • Special thanks to Genea Crivello-Knable, Gail Witt (x11), Katrina Knauss, Pat O'Brien (x2), Bonnie Polinski, Elasia (x2), & Sue Stewart for providing the photos in this section.

DragonJools tested Hades with Effetre Powder Pink.
DragonJools tested Hades with Val Cox's Straw Fire frit blend.
Darlene Collette used Hades as a base for 99% pure fine silver wire.   
Darlene Collette used Hades as a base for various DH glasses and also here.    
Check out DragonJool’s huge beads made with Hades.
See how Dragonjools tested Hades with Vetrofond Honey Crunch.     
Darlene Collette made ladybug themed beads with Hades and ASK104 Scarlet Dreams.
Darlene Collette used Hades with shards of silver glass & silver foil.
Amy Houston used Hades when making black and white beads.
Patricia Frantz demonstrates zigzag feathering with Hades, Triton & Spanish Leather.
Patricia Frantz demonstrates feathering with Hades & Peace.
Patricia Frantz demonstrates transparent colors as encasers with a Smurfy & Hades bead.
See Patricia Frantz's bead made with Wasabi, Triton, & Hades ribbon.
DragonJools compared Val Cox's Silver Lake frit on Tuxedo & Hades.
Check out Amy Houston's Lemon & Lime With A Twist beads using Hades.
DragonJools used Hades as a base to test Effetre Whisper.
Vonna Maslanka's bead created with Hades looks like the Sedona desert.
Visit the CiM Resource Page on the Kitbitz Art Glass site.
See Kay Powell’s frit testing samples.
Browse Serena Thomas’ color gallery.
Check out Miriam Steger’s CiM color charts.


Take a look a Rachel Childer’s tutorial using Hades for three variations of Halloween murrini in the October 2013 issue of the Soda Lime Times.
Rachel Childers
“Hades can't be beat for a black that loves to play with silver glass.” Check out Rachel's tutorial "Murrini simplified."
Rachel Childers
Check out Claudia's trout tutorial with Hades in her book Glass Bead Trip.
Claudia Trimbur-Pagel
Check out Claudia's carp tutorial with Hades in her book Glass Bead Trip.
Claudia Trimbur-Pagel
"In all of these pictures Tuxedo [far right bead] is darkest looking but is not the truest black hue. Hades [middle bead] holds its black tone the best in dilute form." Read more at Kitzbitz Art Glass' blog.
Jolene Wolfe
"I added little bits of Hades stringer and superheated it so it webs. Love the effect." Read more at Heather's blog.
Heather Kelly
"I've been wanting to have a go at pictorial/painterly beads for a while, and I started with birds of paradise because they have such beautiful plumage . . . . I do like the feathery fuzzing out I got at the side by superheating Hades." Read more at Heather's blog.
Heather Kelly
"This is just Hades over CiM Clear, heavily reduced. Hades can be reduced and it will develop some oil-slick almost shiny surface. The reaction is subtle and only perceivable under pretty good light conditions, i.e. outside. The bead is very shiny and 'mirrory,' but not at all metallic."
Martina Marugg
"This cab clearly demonstrates the strength of the dense black, Hades."
Robert Jennik
"Back to Black features silvered Hades shards which are an absolute favourite of mine." Read more at Kitzbitz Art Glass' blog.
Jolene Wolfe
Twisties made with Hades, Peace, and Unique Lipstick -1.
Jolene Wolfe
Dog made with Hades, Stone Ground, & Peace. Check out Kari's dog tutorial.
Kari Chittenden
"On a base of Effetre White pastel, dots of CiM's black Hades were added in a 'dalmatian' like patterning." Read more at Darlene's blog.
Darlene Collette
"This set of 10 goddess series beads was created on a base of Effetre Emerald transparent with layered dots of Effetre Dark Ivory and mixtures of CiM's Hades and Double Helix rare Psyche Light glasses. Highlights of Double Helix's Aurae, create the bling dots for this set." Read more at Darlene's blog.
Darlene Collette
"Handmade twisties of Effetre Dark Rose and CiM's Hades were swirled and scrolled on a base of Effetre Yellow Apricot. The combination of the Rose and Hades brings out a silver'd sheen at different angles to compliment the pink hues."  Read more at Darlene's blog.
Darlene Collette
A comparison of silvered Hades vs. silvered Tuxedo on Stone Ground. Hades is on the top; Tuxedo on the bottom.
Carol Oliver
Striking Color 1029 over Hades with silvered Mermaid stringer.
Carol Oliver
Double Helix Nebula shards over Hades.
Carol Oliver
Silvered Hades.
Carol Oliver
"Effetre intense black spreads on ivory and Hades didn't."
Teri Yount
"I put 4 stripes of Hades on top of ET-204 white, then added 3 dots of the white on each Hades stripe. What I found is really cool! Hades did spider, most noticeably in the direction gravity pulled it as I turned the bead, but also less noticeably in the other direction. The spidering lines, created where the edges blead out over the white, met and collected in the middle of the white areas creating new lines that I had not put there! The spidering lines appear to have a brown hue where gravity pulled the color, and a greenish/black hue where the color spidered up against gravity!"
Bonnie Polinski
"These pictures are from using Aion frit with Hades and stringerwork of Psyche. The silver glass turned the Hades from black to blue and also gave it a purply blue 'oil on water' metallic sheen. I've tried my best to pick it up with the camera."
Claire Morris
"These beads are Peace with Hades dots. I've decided that if you work the Hades slowly in a cooler flame it will keep its crispness. If I'd melted these dots in at my normal rate they would have feathered and bled at the edges creating a murky grey-brown halo to the dots. So I went slowly which paid off and the result is crisp jet black on plain white." Read more at Laura's blog.
Laura Sparling
“Let's compare Messy Hades and Effetre intense black head to head. Dark Ivory base - with a trail of Turquoise in the center indicated in the image, as it reacted so strongly to the ivory it is hard to spot, and Hades on the left, and Intense Black on the right. Equally cool, but noticeably different. The Hades seems to have spawned more of the fine tendrils, but the Intense Black has pulled up more colour, separating the ivory out into light and dark, and rendering up a nice blue too. I declare them equally awesome.” Read more at DragonJools blog.
Dwyn Tomlinson
"On a base of darkest black, CiM Hades, Double Helix's Gaia and Kronos frit was generously sprinkled and reduced to bring out the metallic hues. 99% Fine Silver wire was wrapped and melted in. Effetre glass was then added to magnify the silver glitter captured under it's clear encasement." Read more at Darlene's blog.
Darlene Collette
"I used a base of Hades for these beads, it was a fantastic black to work with. It melted extremely smoothly, but was on the stiff side and produced very crisp lentils as a result. The frit is Val Cox’s “Silver Lake” which does this cool thing on black where lots of blue shows up around the edges. A very pretty effect." Read more at Two Glassy Ladies' blog.
Amy Houston
"The glass wrap is copper green - do you see the line of reaction between the Hades and the copper green?"
Vonna Maslanka
"Hades makes Raku pop more than other blacks because it actually stays black instead of getting a sheen of metallic silver on it giving it a more extreme contrast between the deep black to the intense color of Raku."
Genea Crivello-Knable
"Hades, in a reducing flame when exposed to silver, is incredible. I found this out simply by luck one day, and the set of beads that resulted was gorgeous! The bead set is a Hades base with a stringer of Vetro coral wrapped in silver foil, applied, twisted and then the whole bead reduced."
Carol Oliver
"Hades is a special black that is so dense that it can be pulled down to a hair size stringer and still be opaque black which makes it especially great for detail work that needs to stay black."
Patricia Frantz
Effetre 066 dense black stringer is on the left, with Hades stringer on the right. In Sylvus' experience, 066 has a more consistent and dense working experience. Read more at Sylvus' blog.
Sylvus Tarn
"Midnight Samurai uses a lot of Hades, silver infused for the shards, as thin stringer to create the marbled effect on the silk grey shards and in the twistie/murrini/shardfetti too."
Jolene Wolfe
Silver infused Hades shards. View more of Jolene's work.  
Jolene Wolfe